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ano:
> Just seems like Apple is abandoning a lot of stuff without having replacements ready these days.

Come on now, John. Surely you're not forgetting their innovative new $199/$299 picture book
4:56 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
>Just seems like Apple is abandoning a lot of stuff without having replacements ready these days.

Woah, careful there ((Gruber)). Biting the hand and all that.
5:17 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
The New World Order:
Sad
5:25 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
ass:
Waiting for Grubs to post about 'touch disease' and Apple making their users pay to fix a manufacturing defect.
5:25 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
Sebby:
Great shame, if true. AirPort hardware is robust and "just works" in a way that most others just don't, even if I tend to operate them as WAPs and bridges rather than gateways (their PPPoE support stinks).

> Just seems like Apple is abandoning a lot of stuff without having replacements ready these days.

I understand, John. We all do. But it's important, at times like this, to remember all the happiness Apple gave us, to learn to get on in life without them, and always to remember what they stood for in everything we buy going forward.
5:30 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
John may be moving past the denial stage.
5:34 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
catfood:
i have a bunch of old airport express units that were fine for providing wifi at offsite meetings or whatever.

then one day airport utility said 'we don't support these any more,' and i have to resort to an old mac mini still running 10.6 if i want to change the ssid, etc.

never bought another apple networking product after that. i'm totally fine with them jettisoning that product line and putting those resources elsewhere.
5:49 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
Sebby:
@catfood:

There's a hack to run the older utility on newer hardware/OSs. I agree a proprietary tool for configuration was a bummer, but since everyone's doing it now (even the high-end like Sierra/Mikrotik/Ubiqiti) I'm less sure I can legitimately be bothered about that as I was in the past.

But still, maybe I'd like to hear about other quality consumer gear.
6:00 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
Going Going Gone!:
Really, the market is going to mobile configuration of routers. 93% of end-users don't do shit with the default config, and the other 7% use port forwards/dmz. That's it.

At that point the local gui is basically a security hole.

These #s were from an actual census of about 75k routers.
6:03 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
And what, pray tell, is Apple freeing up engineers to work on?

Apple is leaving this space just as Google has redoubled its efforts.

Tim Cook, it's time to step aside.
6:04 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
Rageous:
The very fact that Airport Extremes required a complete power cycle to make simple adjustments like port configurations was asinine, not to mention requiring a native app just to make said changes. I used them during 2008-2012 ish, but was happy to migrate away.
6:12 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
>Waiting for Grubs to post about 'touch disease' and Apple making their users pay to fix a manufacturing defect.

As if Gruber will ever mention that...
6:31 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
Seriously, fuck Tim Cook! He's gonna completely destroy Apple.
6:31 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
Vanilla Dry Ice:
Let's just hope that all the money Apple is saving that they'll be spending it on bringing the performance of iCloud into 2001.
6:34 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
Q*Bert:
I mean yeah I know you can find routers cheaper nowadays that work pretty well, but I'm sad to hear this. The Airport line was always dead simple to set up and reliable as hell. Still using my circa 2011 Time Capsule every day, gave my parents my old 2008 Airport Extreme which has been working 24/7 for over 8 years. I also had the original "graphite" base station, which was also rock-solid for many years.

And the config app is built into the OS so you don't need to install some shit company's sketchy, bug-ridden software on your machine to use it.

I agree with Sebby, Airports were always the best "just plug it in and forget it" routers on the market.
6:44 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
The New World Order:
It's time to load up on Airport Expresses. They're the best way to push digital audio all over the house, bar none.
7:04 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
Cook's Apple only cares about phones and ipads. Everything else is on the chopping block.


Realistically, how long before Mac is killed off?

I suspect they'll leave it in a zombie state like iPods are in right now...
7:39 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
To Be Fair:
>And what, pray tell, is Apple freeing up engineers to work on?

New paper and ink technology, obviously.
8:44 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
Anonymous®:
Replaced by the new Macminimini.
8:49 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
piece of kit:
When's the last time Gruber had any scoops?
9:07 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
gruber circlejerk:
I wonder how much brand equity Apple has burned through as of late. Every morning, on my morning jog, I have an opportunity to think about it as my Lightning headphones that were forced upon me cut out about every 5 minutes when listening to Spotify.

Of course, I'm only slightly annoyed at that, because I had every intention of buying the Airpods, which apparently Apple can't release on time either.

But jeez. It's one thing after another for those of us in the Apple ecosystem. I probably won't switch anytime soon, but the Pixel doesn't look half-bad, and the new Surface computers look pretty productive.

You have me for now, Apple, but you don't have me forever if this path continues.
9:35 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
Another nail in the Mac's coffin.

RIP Mac. :(

ps: fuck you Tim!
9:57 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
> You have me for now, Apple, but you don't have me forever if this path continues.

Vague threats to maybe one day stop buying their products. That'll show em for sure!
9:59 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
>When's the last time Gruber had any scoops?



Even if he has any, he wouldn't publish it because he's now basically working for Apple PR.

If he started publishing leaks, Apple money would stop and all the Apple execs would stop coming on his show.
10:00 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
gruber circlejerk:
> Vague threats to maybe one day stop buying their products

Thanks, but if I was threatening Apple in any way, it wouldn't be on DFwC. I'm simply stating that I'm nearing the end of my rope of being nickel and dimed and forgotten about.
10:38 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
What's the best site for Apple leaks now? -- That's what I used to come to this site before now almost exclusively coming for the bants.
10:56 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
anonymous:
Gurman with the scoop and Gruber with the ... can we call that commentary?
11:37 pm — Monday, 21 November 2016
piece of kit:
Bloomberg is _the_ place for scoops now that Gurman works there.
12:13 am — Tuesday, 22 November 2016
anonymous:
> I'm simply stating that I'm nearing the end of my rope of being nickel and dimed and forgotten about.

OK, I stand corrected.

Still -- That'll show em!!!

Well played, anon!
4:53 am — Tuesday, 22 November 2016
anonymous:
> It's time to load up on Airport Expresses. They're the best way to push digital audio all over the house, bar none.


Agreed. I'm still using my original that I ordered on release day back whenever they first launched. Great stuff.

They're back in stock at the refurb store right now.
1:27 pm — Tuesday, 22 November 2016
anonymous:
@piece of kit:

>When's the last time Gruber had any scoops?

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4:23 am — Thursday, 24 November 2016
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