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Dicknose:
The difference between Gurman and Gruber is becoming clear.

Gurman writes the news.

Gruber copies and pastes it.
11:58 pm — Sunday, 15 January 2017
elbowroom:
This feels very much like a controlled leak. It's telling us all the cool features but also not all the details, especially the choice of OS as Gruber speculated. That would explain why the screen size is curiously missing except that they are essentially telling us it's superior to the iPhone in terms of screen size to body ratio, which isn't really saying much as Androids often do not have a home button.
12:03 am — Monday, 16 January 2017
toolshed:
Totally beyond me how Rubin thinks he can get primo access to top notch suppliers best kit. The world doesn't work that way.There's no small company ecosystem he can grow with either.
12:41 am — Monday, 16 January 2017
always-on:
> Androids do not have a home button.

They have a back button, a home button, a menu button, a search button...

http://www.androidcentral.com/know-your-buttons
2:31 am — Monday, 16 January 2017
Dicknose:
>Androids often do not have a home button.

I've owned about 6 android phones and they all have a home button.

Never seen an android phone without a home button.

They might not always be a physical clickable button but there's always a home button as far as I can tell.
3:16 am — Monday, 16 January 2017
elbowroom:
@toolshed
Probably subcontracting a lot of engineering to the Chinese mfrs, which isn't uncommon. If they are willing to pay I'm sure they can get decent components.


@always-on
The Android guideline on buttons have changed. The menu button hasn't been required since around ICS and many Android have only virtual buttons.

@Dicknose
The onscreen button doesn't get counted as bezel, it's within the display and they count the display size without considering it.
3:53 am — Monday, 16 January 2017
Stroke! Stroke!:
What's the point? Oy boy, another Android handset...but with even more intrusive feature.

Does it come with a tube of AstroGlide?
4:28 am — Monday, 16 January 2017
Dicknose:
@elbowroom

Fair enough.
5:26 am — Monday, 16 January 2017
elbowroom:
@Stroke! Stroke!

I don't think they are expecting the company to be a big success selling the phones. The investors are most likely counting the company to be successful and famous enough to be sold to a big player such as Samsung or one of Chinese makers for a profit.
5:43 am — Monday, 16 January 2017
anonymous:
> The problem with any sort of modular design where the goal is to “gain new hardware features over time” is that the most important hardware components in a phone are the display, camera, CPU, and GPU, and Apple updates the iPhone with industry-leading displays, cameras, CPUs, and GPUs every year.


There was like, half of a thought there, or maybe two halves of different thoughts, but he doesn't manage to bring it together into a cohesive argument.

Yes, Apple updates their phones yearly. Why is this "the problem" with any modular design?

> If it’s in the prototyping stage right now, in January, and they don’t know what materials they’re going to use or what size the display will be, what chance do they possibly have of putting a phone on sale in the “middle of this year”?

It's fine to be skeptical. But there are several possibilities for how it could be possible. They could have prototyped several options already. So "not knowing" may not mean they have a bunch more work to do, but rather they could be selecting from one of several options.

Also remember that this small startup will not be selling at the same volumes as Apple. They don't need to amass a huge inventory before launch.

> Also, no word on what OS they’re using. I’m guessing Android with customizations, but it’s curious the story doesn’t say.

It would only be "curious" if they *weren't* using Android.

1. Rubin is "the father of Android".
2. There are no other options.

Do you think the 40-person startup is also writing an OS from the ground up to compete with Apple and Google? Sometimes, a little common sense is required when trying to read and understand articles.

I was confused by how bad this 'piece' was until I saw in the comments that it was written by Gurman.
1:17 pm — Monday, 16 January 2017
Vanilla Dry Ice:
This phone will be a hit with the infinitesimally small user base that consists of Slashdot readers and Android Police forum moderators.
3:33 pm — Monday, 16 January 2017
Stroke! Stroke!:
@elbow

Then why not buy Blu, which makes pretty good phones? We bought a bunch for development and they're pretty decent. They feel more solid than the Samsungs, that's for sure.

Maybe they're doing their own hardware just to make a backend software platform. In that case why not partner with someone?

Andy has too much ego to build something just to have it bought.
4:01 pm — Monday, 16 January 2017
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