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Enough Already:
Shocked, shocked that a company with ethics like Uber would have lied about this
11:31 pm — Saturday, 25 February 2017
anonymous:
These cars failed to recognize six traffic lights against how many successful attempts?
12:52 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
anonymous:
Because of this unethical company we could have safer driving through autonomous vehicles set back years or even decades in very extreme cases.

I'm going to be pissed if Uber's antics cause ridiculous reactionary laws to be put in place. Luckily we have Tesla out there doing it right.
1:04 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
anonymous:
>These cars failed to recognize six traffic lights against how many successful attempts?

Sure, it's an extremely low percentage but these aren't human drivers so their rate of running a clearly red light should be zero. Full stop.
1:06 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
anonymous:
Zero should be the goal, certainly. Clearly their ability to recognize red lights is not yet perfect.

But their performance is probably already a marked improvement over human drivers. Without the proper context, this is a non-story.

I have my own problems with Uber, but this feels like... sensationalism at best, 'fake news' at worst.
1:38 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
anonymous:
>But their performance is probably already a marked improvement over human drivers. Without the proper context, this is a non-story.

Lying about results is the only context worthwhile here. If they said something like "Our system acted incorrectly on 5 occasions out 4.7 million traffic lights, 19.2 million stop signs, and 3.8 million pedestrians and other items impending a vehicle's path. While these are impressive results that exceeded our expectations, we are still striving to refine and perfect our systems to continue to help make driving safer."
1:50 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
Patrick Henry, the 2nd:
No, human error was correct.
3:22 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
Patrick Henry, the 2nd:
And not sure why Grubs has his dick HARD for Uber.
3:22 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
gruber123:
@Patrick Henry

Uber is run by a libertarian who tacitly supported Trump and rejects the progressive agenda.
7:14 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
ano:
> But their performance is probably already a marked improvement over human drivers. Without the proper context, this is a non-story.

That's just not even close to true. The technology is not there yet, and these systems' ability to make any kind of on the fly decisions is more limited than most of the industry wants to let on.
10:43 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
anonymous:
>Uber is run by a libertarian who tacitly supported Trump and rejects the progressive agenda.

Rejects progress while overturning the taxi industry and testing self-driving cars.

That makes perfect sense. /s
10:54 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
anonymous:
>That's just not even close to true. The technology is not there yet, and these systems' ability to make any kind of on the fly decisions is more limited than most of the industry wants to let on.

Of course it's true. The percentage of avoidable accidents by human divers are astronomically higher than any of the self-driving systems being tested today. This isn't even up for debate.
10:56 am — Sunday, 26 February 2017
ano:
> . The percentage of avoidable accidents by human divers are astronomically higher than any of the self-driving systems being tested today

These self driving systems can't even operate in ran, fog, or snow.

They can still only handle a rigidly defined subset of tasks expected of human drivers
3:26 pm — Sunday, 26 February 2017
Tillie:
"I called this correctly..."
6:43 pm — Sunday, 26 February 2017
Enough Already:
@anonymous Please tell me you're trolling and you don’t actually think that “progressives” is a term for people who like _technological progress_ and the two big US political parties are fighting over whether the US should be a democracy or a republic?
7:54 pm — Sunday, 26 February 2017
anonymous:
That would be absurd, as the Democrats clearly have no interest in democracy.
1:58 am — Monday, 27 February 2017
To Be Fair:
Progressive has *progress* in the name. Same with conservatives that use liberal as a pejorative when liberal just means open to change. Go back to be afraid that your make believe god will smite you if you let women and non-whites have any freedoms in this country, hypocrits.
2:48 am — Monday, 27 February 2017
anonymous:
What freedoms do they not have? Can you name them?
4:59 am — Monday, 27 February 2017
Mike Collins:
Freedom to choose what to do with their bodies and freedom not to get unfairly targeted by police, for starters, but you racist bigoted dickhoels like to say that "we gave *negros* and *cum dumpsters* the ability to vote so shut the fuck up." Well done, anonymous, douchebags.
3:40 pm — Monday, 27 February 2017
anonymous:
Freedom to choose what to do with their bodies – check.

Freedom to not get unfairly targeted by the police – check.
4:43 pm — Monday, 27 February 2017
Countess Elizabeth Báthory de Ecsed:
Well, at least we get $54 billion in wingnut welfare in the new budget.
4:59 pm — Monday, 27 February 2017
anonymous:
I know this traffic light and I can see how it would be easy to miss.

It's way off to the side of a very wide, one way street. Looking straight ahead, you can see the next traffic light, which is hanging in the middle above the street, where you'd expect to see it.

People from out of town, and uber drivers miss this light all the time and roll through it.

In short, it's the fault of San Francisco's crappy civic design, and not how awesome Uber is.
5:27 pm — Monday, 27 February 2017
piece of kit:
> Looking straight ahead, you can see the next traffic light

The car's supposed to have _better_ vision than any human, not worse.
5:46 pm — Monday, 27 February 2017
Not Anonymous:
PoK, but does it have better vision? That remains unanswered.

We know that it has missed the light at this junction.

Does it miss it every time?

Does it miss it more than a human driver?
6:59 pm — Monday, 27 February 2017
@Not Anonymous:
> Does it miss it every time?

> Does it miss it more than a human driver?

You dare question The Corporation? You must be some sort of commie.
9:43 pm — Monday, 27 February 2017
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