/linked/2017/07/10/boot-trump

Comments

anonymous:
Trump fans in the *DF with Nazis* comments: get fucked.
6:51 pm — Monday, 10 July 2017
ano:
I am astounded by the media's ruse about the realities on the ground in Syria. All the Syrian rebel resistance is made up of Islamist militant groups from al nusra, al qaeda, and ISIS.

The media will dance around this fact, as if supporting the Syrian state is not the best of the worst options out there.

Is it Saudi and Qatari funded thinktanks and money influencing the narratives? The realities are so clear to anyone even casually paying attention, yet there is this concerted, dishonest dance from every newspaper and cable news site
6:57 pm — Monday, 10 July 2017
anonymous:
Boot's article is an incoherent mess – much like all of Boot's writing. Is he being purposefully glib and misleading? Or does he conflate his work with actual discourse?

We already work constructively with France and Germany, despite the destructive course Merkel has set Europe upon. We need to be able to do the same with Russia.

Can you imagine Jimmy Carter colluding with the CIA and FBI to throw the election in 1980? If he had tried, perhaps Reagan would have been a bit more pointed when speaking of his predecessor.

Boot (and Grubs) only reveal that Trump's Warsaw speech was as accurate as it was blistering: we are in a crisis of confidence; freedom is a byproduct of western culture; the greatest dangers from those who seek to subvert and destroy it come from within.
8:04 pm — Monday, 10 July 2017
Not Anonymous:
Gotta love the first anonymous – all the wit, depth and love of free speech common to the modern progressive live.
8:05 pm — Monday, 10 July 2017
Gruber the Booger:
>Trump fans in the DF with Nazis comments: get fucked.

Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean that really got out hand fast.

@ano - agreed. The collective and willful ignorance of reality in the media is astounding.

Back to the article:

>And to give up his seat at the G-20 meeting to his daughter Ivanka, as if he were presiding over a hereditary monarchy like Saudi Arabia.

Then later in the article:

>But coming from Trump, with his long history of Mexican- and Muslim-bashing,

So which is it Max Boot?

You can't have it both ways. Max Boot slips a dig in at the Saudi's and then a few paragraphs later slights Trump for trying to keep out the bad Muslims.

Moving on, as far as legacy and passing the torch goes, why does he not mention the Bush's, or the Clinton's?

I bet that Ivanka will be America's first woman president. Definitely won't be Hillary.

This is yet another opinion hit piece. I don't like Trump, but this article smells.
8:29 pm — Monday, 10 July 2017
Who are me?:
The elites are, as usual, freaking out over their lack of influence.

The world is changing. You can cling to the mores of the past, or you can make the future.

I'm sure Max Boot sits around complaining that the Bond movies were better back when the Cold War was on.
10:43 pm — Monday, 10 July 2017
Bob Sinclair:
Not Anonymous wrote, "Gotta love the first anonymous – all the wit, depth and love of free speech common to the modern progressive live."

Someone tells you to *get fucked* and you claim your free speech rights are being violated.

He didn't say you couldn't be a prick, but he told you how he feels about dickheads like you. Also, free speech has nothing to do with message boards, you fucking tool.
12:54 am — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anon:
it's so wonderful having Trump as our President.
1:47 am — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
i don't think he claimed his free speech rights were being violated. merely suggesting that the left attempts to silence, censor, intimidate and shut down any voice in any venue that strays from their accepted scripture.

kinda like you how you just did.
2:56 am — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
fookles:
MAKE BOND MOVIES GREAT AGAIN!

Build a better fourth wall!
5:32 am — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
fookles:
MAKE BOND MOVIES GREAT AGAIN!

Build a better fourth wall!
5:32 am — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
@who are me

"The elites are, as usual, freaking out over their lack of influence."

i guess you mean trump&co
5:57 am — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
There's a delicious irony in Grubs being reduced to shilling for the warmongering neoliberal Max Boot.

Trump is a mess, but the left is worse.
7:28 am — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
>Trump is a mess, but the left is worse.

Well aren't we feeling delusional today?
10:25 am — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
@all y'all:
![Fine.](http://i.imgur.com/gmov5WY.jpg)
3:31 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
Make peace, not liberals:
Trump and co are large and in charge. Everyone else can go pound sand.
4:11 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
@Make peace, not liberals:
You misspelled Putin.
5:23 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
Who are me?:
Pounding sand: what you do when you lose.
6:47 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
Who are me?:
In Russia, Putin pounds you!
6:47 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
I'm amazed at how much power the Democrats are willing to give Russia in hijacking the focus of Congress and paralyzing Washington, eroding trust in our democracy and its supporting institutions and blunting our ability to project power abroad.

It's almost as if the left is actively working against the best interest of the country.

Except without the almost.
7:21 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
catfood:
*hijacking the focus of Congress and paralyzing Washington*

but the emails! benghazi!!
7:54 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
ano:
benghazi was a disaster, along with the administration's overall policy in libya, along with clinton's support of the iraq war in 2002 and 2003. she was a terrible candidate. cut it with this "but the emails!" meme.

she was a terrible candidate to rally behind.
8:25 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
lmao at redhat justification
8:45 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
Bob Sinclair:
Anonymous wrote, "i don't think he claimed his free speech rights were being violated. merely suggesting that the left attempts to silence, censor, intimidate and shut down any voice in any venue that strays from their accepted scripture.

kinda like you how you just did."

I didn't silence him. I didn't censor him. I didn't intimidate him. I didn't shut down a single avenue that would allow him to be fuck face, nor have I done that to you, but both of you are clearly sensitive little snowflakes that get offended when others tell you you're being assholes. Do you need a safe space you pathetic little coward?
9:22 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
Bob, you're clearly far more threatened by him than he is by you. He's for more speech; you're for less. He's for discourse; you're for name calling.

Leftists have become the worst enemy of liberalism.
9:39 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
antonymous:
This is somehow worse than collecting hundreds of millions of dollars from Saudi mullahs?
9:50 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
tony: get fucked.
10:02 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
Not Anonymous:
If this is democratic debate, are we really any better than China?
10:10 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
Countess Elizabeth Báthory de Ecsed:
All this windy verbiage and still no discussion of the turd in the punchbowl -- Fredo’s emails directly establishing collusion with the Russian government?
10:23 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
Bob Sinclair:
Me: I called someone out for being a hypocrite prick while saying they had a right to be a hypocritical prick
Not Me: How did they take it?
Me: They told me I was taking away their freedoms of speech and complained that I'd call them out on it.
Not Me: What a fucking tool.
Me: Right?!
10:57 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
>she was a terrible candidate to rally behind

Yes, she was terrible. So people got behind someone who is 10x more terrible. Trump and his entire family are dirty as fuck. What's worse? They are too STUPID to know how dirty they are. It takes a special kind of stupid to not only acknowledge meeting with Russians who promised dirt on the opposition, but also publicly post copies of the emails confirming it happened. Yeah, this is Trump Jr. we're talking about here, but don't expect me to believe Trump Sr. isn't up to his neck in this shit too. Not with how he's been cozying up to Putin.
10:58 pm — Tuesday, 11 July 2017
anonymous:
Except Fredo's email DON'T establish collusion with the Russian government. Womp womp.
12:16 am — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
anonymous:
The irony is that the Democrats are now colluding with the Russians to attack Trump.
12:57 am — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
anonymous:
>Except Fredo's email DON'T establish collusion with the Russian government. Womp womp.

Except it does. It's illegal to solicit such aid from a foreign power, or accept it if offered. Period. The emails are completely unambiguous about what was being dangled and the interest in it. Whether or not they received any such aid is irrelevant. What's really hilarious is that it appears they didn't actually get anything on Clinton from the Russians, which makes me think the Trumps were being played the whole time. So not only did these fools inadvertently give the Russians leverage on themselves, but mini-Trump outed himself and Manafort by publishing those emails.
1:28 am — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
ano:
> rump and his entire family are dirty as fuck. What's worse? They are too STUPID to know how dirty they are

It's too bad we ran a corrupt incompetent and generally terrible candidate against him.
1:52 am — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
Gruber the Booger:
I'll give Hillary a third chance at bat.

Three strikes and she's out.

She can barely take four balls just to get at first.

What was that about the Trump family being idiots?

Who's the president?
2:15 am — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
anonymous:
[Trump Jr.: 'I probably would have' handled Russia meeting differently](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341564-trump-jr-i-probably-would-have-handled-russia-meeting-differently)

>But President Trump’s eldest son said the meeting “went nowhere and it was apparent that that wasn’t what the meeting was actually about.”

Here's what it was about: setting your stupid fuck ass up so they'd have something dirty to use on YOU!

>“In retrospect, I probably would have done things a little differently,” he told Hannity.

Hmmmm. So maybe he's not a COMPLETELY lost cause if he has this little bit of self-awareness.
3:10 am — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
anonymous:
"Whether or not they received any such aid is irrelevant."

You clearly don't understand the law.
4:43 am — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
Sebby:
> i don't think he claimed his free speech rights were being violated. merely suggesting that the left attempts to silence, censor, intimidate and shut down any voice in any venue that strays from their accepted scripture.

But "anonymous" didn't do that.

> Trump is a mess, but the left is worse.

Please don't insult "the left" by confusing them with the centre-right neoliberal ideologues. Thank you.

As to America's oh-so-benevolent influence in Europe, also now drifting further toward the right, under influence of both neolib and ultra-nationalist forces, all I can say is, thank you, Trumptards. At great cost to yourselves, and Great Britain, you have set the stage for reform. It was reckless, but it's happened, and it couldn't have come soon enough.
8:27 am — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
knowitall:
I dont understand how all the people who voted in Trump because of "crooked" Hilary can't see a problem with a man who has turned the presidency into a family business!

Please tell me Americans really arent this stupid?

And btw, intent is the same as doing the crime. Thats why you can be caught by entrapment in drugs cases or attempted murders. If there is clear intent your done for. I cant see how Trump jr's email is not clear intent to obtain this information. Had she had gotten information on Hilary from this Russian source would he have said "no thank you"?

What I find interesting is that Trump has had so many terrible things about his presidency that nothing really moves the needle anymore. Even this!
Trump would have to shoot someone in Time Square for anyone of his supporters to raise an eyebrow. What a crazy place the US is right now.
10:58 am — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
Gruber the Booger:
@knowitall

>Please tell me Americans really arent this stupid?

There are more than plenty of morons in any country.

What was Antifa's intent in Hamburg?

Please tell me Germans aren't that stupid.

See how that works?

America is a fantastic place to live. Like many countries, including Germany.

If America and Germany weren't fantastic then why do so many people want to move there from other countries?

>What I find interesting is that Trump has had so many terrible things about his presidency

Agreed. He's had a few. No doubt about it. Can't stand him. Or Hillary.

>Trump would have to shoot someone in Time Square for anyone of his supporters to raise an eyebrow.

Come on, let's not get hyperbolic here.

>What a crazy place the US is right now.

What a crazy place the entire world is right now.

If the rest of world thinks the US is so crazy, then stay the fuck out and stop moving here.

I say the same about the US military involvement other countries. And US foreign aid to other countries. Stay the fuck out and stop giving.
12:53 pm — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
anonymous:
>Trump would have to shoot someone in Time Square for anyone of his supporters to raise an eyebrow.


![](https://i.imgflip.com/1c9g2o.jpg)
1:14 pm — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
anonymous:
Sebby, there is no confusing the left with centre-right neoliberals: Trump is infinitely preferable to the progressive left.
2:55 pm — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
Not Anonymous:
Who knew so many lawyers contributed to DFWC?
3:08 pm — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
anonymous:
Sebby, there is no confusing the left with centre-right neoliberals: the progressive left is infinitely preferable to Trump.
3:43 pm — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
catfood:
@ano: wasn't saying anything about hillary one way or another. just pointing out the absurdity of trump supporters complaining about 'hijacking the focus of Congress and paralyzing Washington.'
4:51 pm — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
anonymous:
Guys, the debate is over. Trump's own lawyer has weighed in and said what Trump Jr. did wasn't illegal. And of course his stance is firmly rooted in the law and an innate desire to seek out and spread the truth, regardless of who is footing his salary.

[Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting with Russian lawyer 'not illegal,' president's attorney says ](http://abcnewsradioonline.com/politics-news/donald-trump-jrs-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-not-illegal-pre.html)
5:03 pm — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
Not Anonymous:
It's hardly absurd. Since Podesta first floated the Russian connection the day after the election, my own congressman, Adam Schiff, has talked of little else. He is no longer a functioning member of Congress, but an expensively-suited flat-earther. There's little chance he'll be primaried by an equally-liberal but more-focused Democrat, but I can dream. I'll certainly never vote for him again. The whole episode really is on par with "Show us the birth certificate!"
7:57 pm — Wednesday, 12 July 2017
anonymous:
>The whole episode really is on par with "Show us the birth certificate!"

Something that Trump pushed quite a bit back in the day. Karma's a real bitch, ain't it?
3:26 am — Thursday, 13 July 2017
knowitall:
@Gruber

"If the rest of world thinks the US is so crazy, then stay the fuck out and stop moving here."

To be fair. When I'm in the US you don't (well at least NY,LA and Miami) you dont notice anything bad unless you watch the news.

So I kind of think that the whole Trump thing is just being played out in the media and in congress but hasn't really effected many people directly yet. Their lives are the same as they always were, in fact, even better since the economy has picked up.

It's just that we all know that all these polices, issues, blah blah are eventually going to hit everyone at some point. Whatever cuts he's putting in now, will trickle down and change the future for america and the rest of the world.

It's just surreal that he seems to be making a mockery of a political system that americans over centuries have sort so hard to protect. And of feels like half the country just doesnt care about that.
9:32 am — Thursday, 13 July 2017
Gruber the Booger:
@knowitall

>It's just that we all know that all these polices, issues, blah blah are eventually going to hit everyone at some point. Whatever cuts he's putting in now, will trickle down and change the future for america and the rest of the world.

Unfortunately you might be quite correct. When shit literally starts to crumble, it's bad news.

>And of feels like half the country just doesnt care about that.

Again, unfortunately you might be spot on.

America seems like it is more divided than ever, especially if you watch the news.

But, I travel a fair amount around the country and internationally and to me it's a pretty great place.

The pendulum swings back and forth. If Trump actually lasts four years, the poor decisions he's making now won't have time to set in and will be reversed by the next person.

Thanks for the reasonable exchange, you have a good and fair take on things.
2:33 pm — Thursday, 13 July 2017
Leave a Comment
To leave a comment, install the Safari extension!