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anonymous:
How? With guns?
10:46 pm — Tuesday, 3 October 2017
Joe the Pragmatist:
Would confiscating actually work? It might be worth it to put principles aside for something that works, but it would be pretty stupid if it didn't work.
11:39 pm — Tuesday, 3 October 2017
Dr. Seuss is the Antichrist:
I can even.
11:40 pm — Tuesday, 3 October 2017
2b1ask1:
Uggg.

Please...

Just watch this quick video - and just stop it:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3653318/pg1
1:09 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Gruber the Booger:
The best we can do is look at this as the mental health issue that it is. People who kill other people are sick in the head.

Confiscation will accomplish nothing. If someone wants to kill people, taking the guns away won't stop that. They will just run people over with a truck, or fly planes into buildings, or make a bomb and blow it up at a concert.

There are plenty of ways to kill people. Removing guns from that equation won't stop that or change a thing. These people are mental.

2:41 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
ano:
> Confiscation will accomplish nothing.

It worked in Australia.
5:43 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Known Unknowns:
It would accomplish something if it could be accomplished, which I doubt it could be in the U.S., either politically or practically. Looking to other solutions would be a better use of everyone's time.
6:27 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
ohm:
I'd imagine that this sort of thing would decrease if guns were banned or whatever. But gun violence? It would continue.
6:53 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Ero:
But muh well regulated militia!
6:57 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Gaping Firecock:
>I say ban them all. Confiscate every single one of the goddamn things.

Nobody cares what you think, John, because we have a Constitution. The same one that allows you to say stupid things like the above.
7:52 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Ailurus:
"The best we can do is look at this as the mental health issue that it is. People who kill other people are sick in the head."

-agreed, while easy access to firearms makes killing vast numbers of people much easier than it should be for a sick person (easier than assembling explosives from component materials or getting enough experience to fly a plane into something at least) confiscation would be a stopgap measure at best; We're rapidly approaching a future where anyone with access to a 3D printer will most likely be able to print as many assault weapons as they want, and then it's game-over for gun control everywhere.

The problem is not guns themselves, it's cultural normalisation of gun-ownership and the fact that angry people aren't being told to seek help by media and society, they're being told that owning a gun is a 'right' and using guns to express power and frustration is fine.

Seriously, fuck orgs like the NRA who try to pretend that guns are anything other than devices of death and contribute to massively harmful myths that equate gun-ownership with national identity, but the problem is in the national gun-fetish and laissez-faire attitude towards weaponry more than ownership per-se.
7:54 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Gaping Firecock:
>(easier than assembling explosives from component materials or getting enough experience to fly a plane into something at least)

Great example, considering the Las Vegas asshole had a pilot's license and owned two private airplanes. I can only imagine the devastation would have been markedly worse had he decided to use one of his planes instead.

>they're being told that owning a gun is a 'right'

Because it is a right.

>and using guns to express power and frustration is fine.

Who says this?

>Seriously, fuck orgs like the NRA

Fuck you.

8:00 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Swiss Cheese:
I come from a country where every man goes to the army and until recently was encouraged to take his gun home. There was a change to that rule (despite the constitutional rights), because our history has shown those weapons to be misused (not necessarily by the owner). A home with a gun is NOT safer, actually quite the opposite... Seriously America, do your homework and learn from other countries.
8:07 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Gaping Firecock:
>A home with a gun is NOT safer, actually quite the opposite...

According to whom? You? But this is irrelevant anyway. The constitution does not contain a "only if it makes the home safer" stipulation.

>Seriously America, do your homework and learn from other countries.

No thanks, I'm quite happy with my constitutional rights.
8:09 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
not that hard:
ano:

> It worked in Australia.

That's still open to debate. We like to think it had this huge effect but I'm not sure it did. That guy in Port Arthur, Tasmania was mental though. That fact that we remember that one guy in the last 21 years probably say more about societal attitude and mental health than anything about guns.

I do fail to understand why in a civilised society any kind of semi-automatic weapon would be required.

9:13 am — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
anonymous:
Yes, if we make guns illegal then people will not get shot anymore. That's how we got rid of drugs!
4:13 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Vanilla Dry Ice:
Yes, because a well-regulated militia, armed with pistols, will be able to thwart the government should it choose to, oh I don't, go house to house and take us all in.

That's a fantasy concocted by angry fat white dudes who fear emasculation by having their little hand cannons taken away and ruining their cowboys-and-indians childhood fantasies.

Go fuck yourselves. You just want your guns so you can shoot beer cans in the backyard. You honestly think it's to defend yourselves against a tyrannical government? Wait, are you adorned in powder wigs and knee-high socks, too?
4:24 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
anonymous:
> That fact that we remember that one guy in the last 21 years probably say more about societal attitude and mental health than anything about guns.

i'm not sure you can make that jump - we'd need more information on how australia handles mental health issues.

but you can't deny that having less access to guns makes it harder for crazy people to get guns and kill people.
5:17 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Gaping Firecock:
>You honestly think it's to defend yourselves against a tyrannical government?

Irrelevant. It's a constitutional right. Period.
6:22 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
I Shall Be There Anon:
This post should have been titled THE INFANTILIZATION OF TECH BLOGGERS IN AMERICA
6:43 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
anonymous:
.> Irrelevant. It's a constitutional right. Period.

assholes like this are the problem. "but mah rights!"

doesn't matter that those rights have no practical purpose any more. sure, they used to, but times change, and the writers of the constitution weren't fucking fortune tellers and the constitution isn't perfect or unchangeable.
7:28 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Gruber the Booger:
>You just want your guns so you can shoot beer cans in the backyard.

Nothing wrong with that. I like doing that. It is a lot of fun.

That is one of the best uses of a gun I can think of. Target practice.

Target practice is good harmless fun. No person killed or hurt. No animals killed or hurt.

Just targets getting blown to bits. Sounds like a good time to me.

Meanwhile you learn how to handle a firearm and aim true. Two skills that are nice to have. Like how knowing CPR is a good skill to have.
7:57 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
anonymous:
assholes like you are the problem.

if you think the second amendment is obsolete, amend the constitution.
7:59 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
anonymous:
Gruber is pretty light on the updates this week. I wonder if his traffic goes down during these periods.
8:37 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
anonymous:
> Meanwhile you learn how to handle a firearm and aim true. Two skills that are nice to have. Like how knowing CPR is a good skill to have.

implicit in this comment is that one day that skill will be useful. because everyone knows that at some point, you'll be called on to save the day with your superior marksmanship skills.

vanilla dry ice already said it best:

> That's a fantasy concocted by angry fat white dudes who fear emasculation by having their little hand cannons taken away and ruining their cowboys-and-indians childhood fantasies.
8:55 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
anonymous:
You can always count on Vanilla Dry Ice to lighten the mood with racism.
9:19 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Tom:
I always will remember
'Twas a year ago November
I went out to hunt some deer
On a mornin' bright and clear
I went and shot the maximum the game laws would allow
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow
9:19 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Mountain Man:
Another handy skill to have is skinning a bear. Never know when you'll have to skin a bear.

Bear meat: mmm-mmm good!
9:22 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
anonymous:
Straw men: mmm-mmm good argument!
9:31 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Grizzly Adams:
Can't we all just get along?
10:20 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Grizzly Adams, R.I.P.:
In 1855, Adams suffered head and neck trauma during a grizzly attack in the Sierra of California. His scalp was dislodged, and he was left with a silver dollar-sized impression in his skull, just above his forehead. Adams had made pets of several grizzlies, and often wrestled with them while training them and in exhibitions. During one such bout, his most delinquent grizzly, General Fremont (named for John C. Fremont), struck Adams in the head and reopened the wound. It was subsequently reinjured several times, eventually leaving Adams' brain tissue exposed.

The damage was further exacerbated while Adams was on tour with a circus in New England during the summer of 1860, when a monkey he was attempting to train purportedly bit into the wound. After more than four months performing with his California Menagerie, complications from the injury led to Adams' inability to continue with the show. After completing his contract with P. T. Barnum, he retired to Neponset, Massachusetts, where he died of illness (possibly meningitis) just five days after arriving at the home of his wife and daughter. Upon hearing of Adams' death, Barnum was deeply grieved.
10:23 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Anonymous Prospector:
I reckon I woulda done et General Fremont afore he et me.
10:26 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Mister Anon:
Hey, maybe that's Gruber's problem. His brain tissue is exposed.
10:27 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Grizzly :
I don’t throw the word “hero” around lightly, but Grizzly Adams was a hero. I love his bears, I love his beard, I love his work. I’m in shock, to be honest, and all I can think to do is to don my bear suit and dance.

I’m devastated. I’m sorry.
11:31 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
2b1ask1:
Best video about the Vegas shooting so far:

http://snip.ly/f3tvs
11:51 pm — Wednesday, 4 October 2017
Gruber the Booger:
>implicit in this comment is that one day that skill will be useful. because everyone knows that at some point, you'll be called on to save the day with your superior marksmanship skills.

What is wrong with knowing something?

Target shooting is a good fun time. Knowing how to handle a firearm is a useful thing to know.

Work yourself into a pretzel about it but that is all I am saying.

Project your fantasies elsewhere.
12:07 am — Thursday, 5 October 2017
toolshed:
Everyone knows the guns are there so you can shoot some uppity black fella when he comes on to your property. Pure and simple, it's about maintaining the superior nature of the law-abidin, god-fearin white man, and unwindin these unAmerican laws of recent years that say all folks are equal. To hell they are.
12:41 am — Thursday, 5 October 2017
anonymous:
Except all those guns used by black fellas to kill other black fellas.
12:51 am — Thursday, 5 October 2017
yawn:
fuck guns? but guns fuck YOU!
3:06 am — Thursday, 5 October 2017
Gaping Firecock:
>assholes like this are the problem. "but mah rights!"

I'm an asshole because I like my constitutional rights? Fuck you. Assholes like *you* are the problem. Go fuck off to some other country with fewer freedoms if you don't like it.
3:10 am — Thursday, 5 October 2017
Gaping Firecock:
>Everyone knows the guns are there so you can shoot some uppity black fella when he comes on to your property. Pure and simple, it's about maintaining the superior nature of the law-abidin, god-fearin white man, and unwindin these unAmerican laws of recent years that say all folks are equal. To hell they are.

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you mentally disabled?
3:11 am — Thursday, 5 October 2017
Grizzly Man:
Grizzly Adams was black. Little known fact.
4:23 am — Thursday, 5 October 2017
Swiss Cheese:
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7:24 am — Thursday, 5 October 2017
anonymous:
I guess Gruber's not going to write about the new phones and other hardware from Google.

Maybe in a week or so he'll post a link to some reviews from actual journalists.

In the mean time we get "guns are bad" "trump is bad" posts.
3:20 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
Anonymous®:
America wouldn't be worse off without the 2nd Amendment.
3:57 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
anonymous:
>We each possess an unalienable and inherent right of self-defense, a lawfully armed citizenry is a free citizenry, and no government ever constructed has merited the total trust of its people.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452300/liberals-national-rifle-association-gun-control
4:22 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
My Optional Name:
>Yes, because a well-regulated militia, armed with pistols, will be able to thwart the government should it choose to, oh I don't, go house to house and take us all in.

The ironic thing here is that all these hyper-nationalistic gun nuts who scream "support our veterans!" and bristle at any action they perceive to be disrespectful to the flag and our military... are prepared AND willing to commit the ultimate acts of disrespect to our military if the situation warrants it in their minds.
4:43 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
anonymous:
Because they're free people
4:53 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
Free Folk:
Their guns are going to get smashed like Mance Rayder's host beneath the wall.
4:58 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
anonymous:
i like how the pixel 2 doesn't have a headphone jack.
5:26 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
anonymous:
It's almost as if My Optional name doesn't understand the 2nd Amendment, representative democracy or patriotism.
5:37 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
anonymous:
It's almost like anonymous doesn't understand constitutional amendments. He'll understand them when we take his guns.
6:00 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
anonymous:
I have no guns nor any desire to own any.

If you don't like the 2nd Amendment, a further amendment to the Constitution is the way to go.
7:36 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
The Grubmeister:
I can't even today, I can't even tomorrow, I can't even the next day, the day after, the day after that. I CAN'T EVEN THE WHOLE WEEK.
8:51 pm — Thursday, 5 October 2017
anonymous:
Thanks for the $8000, sponsors. I can't even though. Sorry. Thanks again.
4:20 am — Friday, 6 October 2017
DATLOGICDOH:
Trump is Hitler, and you want to take away guns?

Last week we kneel for police brutality, this week we only want police to have the guns.
4:56 am — Friday, 6 October 2017
anonymous:
The violence will not end until we give up our guns.

The government that started our wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq... the government that colludes with corporations and plutocrats to poison our environment and rob the poor to feed the rich... the government that empowers police to oppress people of color... the government funnels billions in subsidies to big business as corporate welfare...

Yeah, let's trust them and give up all the guns. And while we're at it, let's let them run healthcare too. Chances are slim to none they'd fuck up 1/6th of the economy.
5:43 am — Friday, 6 October 2017
My Optional Name:
>It's almost as if My Optional name doesn't understand the 2nd Amendment, representative democracy or patriotism.

It's almost as if anonymous thinks his interpretation/definition of the 2nd Amendment, representative democracy, and patriotism are the final word on the matter.
12:40 pm — Friday, 6 October 2017
Gaping Firecock:
>He'll understand them when we take his guns.

Good luck. Who do you think will be doing the forcible taking? You? The police? The military? I wish you the most sincere of luck. You'll need it.
4:13 pm — Friday, 6 October 2017
anonymous:
No, Gaping Firecock. They'll just kill you when you resist.
1:25 pm — Monday, 16 October 2017
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