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anonymous:
Another reminder that progressives are authoritarian, free speech-hating thugs.
1:55 am — Thursday, 30 November 2017
Mac Pro Is Dead:
Quoting for grammarchowder when he like to correct his quip:

> There are an awful lot of people who like to buy this guy a beer.

2:17 am — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
>Another reminder that progressives are authoritarian, free speech-hating thugs.

The First Amendment doesn't mean that private corporations can't have rules and regulations about what kind of content they allow. To claim that Twitter's rules don't apply because you have a hard on for Trump just being for racist, fascist dick that doesn't give two shits about the US.
2:49 am — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
No one said anything about the First Amendment. That's a a constitutional right, not an attitude of liberalism that is unimportant to progressives.
3:16 am — Thursday, 30 November 2017
Paint the tires, ma!:
When you shut down people we don't like we love you.


When you shut down people we like we vilify you.


Yeah, sounds like a Liberal.


That's what happened to the French, Russian, Cuban, and Chinese Revolutions: they ate themselves.


Liberals are about the ends, not the means. Then the means comes back and kills them. Tough shit, morons.
4:02 am — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
Two years ago a liberal and a reliable Democratic voter.

Progressives are why I've abandoned that party.

And they're just getting started.
5:57 am — Thursday, 30 November 2017
Gruber the Booger:
11 minutes without Twitter?

Stop the presses.

Trump or anyone for that matter can't live without Twitter for 11 fucking minutes.

It's not like Trump needs to tweet the launch codes for a nuclear missile, although I wouldn't be surprised if he did.

This is such a non-story it's almost painful.

It makes the lefties look like intolerable douche bags and the righties look like, well, the same as they always were.

@anonymous

>The First Amendment doesn't mean that private corporations can't have rules and regulations about what kind of content they allow.

So you would agree that to force a bakery to bake a cake for a gay wedding is not ok?

After all that is a private corporation (or small business I have no idea if they were/are incorporated) that can decide who and what is allowed in the of the use their services.

Oh and by the way, Twitter is a publicly traded corporation with stock holders to answer to. Not private.
9:32 am — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
Two years ago a conservative and a reliable Republican voter.

Neocons are why I've abandoned that party.

And they're just getting started.
2:24 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
Patrick Henry, the 2nd:
> There are an awful lot of people who would like to buy this guy a beer.

There are an awful lot of people who are awful.

They don't realize that having Trump on Twitter is the best thing for him.

They also don't realize the shitty double standard they pulled.

> No one said anything about the First Amendment. That's a a constitutional right, not an attitude of liberalism that is unimportant to progressives.

Exactly. The First Amendment protects free speech from governmental interference. But free free speech is a superset of that principle. One can understand that private companies *can* restrict free speech, while also believe they *shouldn't*.
2:58 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
@Patrick Henry, the 2nd:
> They don't realize that having Trump on Twitter is the best thing for him.

Can we get him a simulated Twitter, complete with bots that retweet, fave, and reply to him, both positively and negatively? Would probably spare us a lot of anxiety about him starting WW3 whilst taking his morning shit.
3:39 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
PB Newman O's:
POTUS is using Twitter as his main mode of communication with the American public. This is the best thing to happen to the company since it was created. You think Twitter is going to let a little thing like ethics get in the way of making more profits?
3:54 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
> So you would agree that to force a bakery to bake a cake for a gay wedding is not ok?

so where does that end? what if they don't want to bake cakes for black people? or muslims? or gingers? or caucasians? how much discrimination is ok?

> Oh and by the way, Twitter is a publicly traded corporation with stock holders to answer to. Not private.

so what? public companies can decide what speech is allowed on their platform. as someone else pointed out, the first amendment is about government stifling of speech. nothing to do with corporations, public or private.
4:27 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
So you were okay with the neocons during the Bush years?

It's not as if neocons had much power during the Obama years.

And Trump is a repudiation of the neocon movement.
4:41 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
Fanny:
So did this guy use a Mac to shut down Trump's Twitter, or... what is this blog again?
5:32 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
So you were okay with the progressives during the Clinton years?

It's not as if progressives had much power during the Bush years.

And Trump is the poster child of the neocon movement.
6:28 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
John Gruber SE:
>so where does that end? what if they don't want to bake cakes for black people? or muslims? or gingers? or caucasians? how much discrimination is ok?

As much as they want. Who cares where it ends? Don't like it, go patronize another business. End of story. This idea that you or anyone else should be able to forcibly enlist someone to perform services for you or sell you goods *when they don't want to* is absolutely absurd.

>as someone else pointed out, the first amendment is about government stifling of speech

It's not about the first amendment, it's about free speech.
6:49 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
John Gruber SE:
And yes, the means Twitter *can* censor as much as it wants. It's counter to free speech and I disagree with it, but I'm not in favor of forcing them to do anything.
6:50 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
>It's not about the first amendment, it's about free speech.

lolwut. freedom speech is codified in the first amendment.
9:26 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
John Gruber SE:
>lolwut. freedom speech is codified in the first amendment.

Free speech is a superset of the first amendment, not a subset. An important distinction in the discussion at hand.
9:35 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
Time to reintroduce civics into school curricula.
11:14 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
Gruber the Booger:
>so where does that end? what if they don't want to bake cakes for black people? or muslims? or gingers? or caucasians? how much discrimination is ok?

When it comes to a cake? Any level of discrimination is fine with me. People will vote with their wallets. Or bake your own cake. Anyone with half a brain can do that.

When it comes to being sick, needing a doctor or hospital? I'll draw the line. And everyone should have access to an attorney.

No one, no matter who they are should be refused service when it comes to life, health and the law.

A cake? Fuck off and go down the street or to the next town if I don't feel like serving you.

There are way bigger fish to fry.
11:56 pm — Thursday, 30 November 2017
anonymous:
What counts as being sick and needing a doctor or hospital?

I'm not being glib or purposefully obtuse, but we have a huge problem with medical abuse (people not that sick or needing routine attention going to the ER, largely the poor) and over-treatment (demanding antibiotics and unnecessary prescriptions and interventions, largely the upper-middle class), both of which drive up the cost of healthcare astronomically.

I do agree that no one legitimately ill should refused – but only if that service is limited to those in genuine, acute need.
1:42 am — Friday, 1 December 2017
anonymous:
> people not that sick or needing routine attention going to the ER, largely the poor

welcome to the republican health care plan.

[link](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/gop-rep-calls-emergency-room-health-care-coverage-if-you-show-up-at-a-hospital-you-get-coverage/)
3:14 am — Friday, 1 December 2017
Mac Pro is Dead:
Gruber the Booger wants White-only cake bakeries, jfc
6:00 am — Friday, 1 December 2017
Johnny Grubstein:
>welcome to the republican health care plan.

People abusing the ER for routine nonsense has a lot more to do with stupidity than anything else. You could give them a "free" health plan for doctor visits and the vast majority would still use the hospital for everything.
6:31 am — Friday, 1 December 2017
Gruber the Booger:
@Mac Pro is Dead

>Gruber the Booger wants White-only cake bakeries, jfc

That is not what I said at all.

Nice try, your comment is complete bullshit.

But I'll take your racist bait.

Try ordering a BLT in the Jewish part of town.

Try getting Chinese food at an Italian place.

I demand that the baker in Mexican town bake me a cake that says "Build the Wall" on it.

Do I agree with a gay couple being turned away at the cake shop? Nope. No I don't.

Do I want a parade of neo-nazis marching down the main street of my town? Not really.

Do I want people to be able to draw a cartoon of Mohammed and not murdered? 100%.

Do I think a mom and pop business has the right to refuse service? Yes.

I said hospitals should take all comers and lawyers should be available to anyone.

A wedding cake does not amount to much. It's really small potatoes.

But nice try making it a racial thing. You should be ashamed of yourself.
9:28 am — Friday, 1 December 2017
Gruber the Booger:
>What counts as being sick and needing a doctor or hospital?

>I do agree that no one legitimately ill should refused – but only if that service is limited to those in genuine, acute need.

What counts as genuine, acute need?

There's always going to be whiners, attention seekers, and idiots who don't take care of themselves.

I suppose it's called triage.

That is the cost we pay as a group of people.

I almost never go to the public library, have no children in the public school system currently and use other "free" public services very little. But I am willing to pay for all of those them because it's the right thing to do. In my opinion.

I will fully admit healthcare is a bit fucked in the United States. It is indeed a big ticket item worth working out.

But the reality is you can walk into a hospital in the US and never pay the bill. At least if you don't care about your credit. But they'll never turn you away and will do their best to help you.

Overall the United States is not so terrible at everything. Is it that bad? Why do people keep coming here?

Must be the weather. Maybe it's the opportunity. Maybe it's our awesome prisons.

The prison line is a joke, before anyone flips the fuck out.
10:16 am — Friday, 1 December 2017
anonymous:
The public library only costs you $20 a year in taxes, though.

If you can go to the ER seeking routine treatment, and never pay the bill... seems like a pretty good reason to come here.
4:59 pm — Friday, 1 December 2017
anonymous:
"And Trump is the poster child of the neocon movement."

Can anyone really think this? Obama was more of a neocon than Trump has been so far.

Neocons have been a reliable thorn in Trump's side.
5:01 pm — Friday, 1 December 2017
Mac Pro is Dead:
> When it comes to a cake? Any level of discrimination is fine with me.
> When it comes to a cake? Any level of discrimination is fine with me.
> When it comes to a cake? Any level of discrimination is fine with me.
> When it comes to a cake? Any level of discrimination is fine with me.
7:08 pm — Friday, 1 December 2017
Mac Pro is Dead:
> Do I think a mom and pop business has the right to refuse service to black people? Yes.

7:08 pm — Friday, 1 December 2017
anonymous:
>"And Trump is the poster child of the neocon movement."

>Can anyone really think this? Obama was more of a neocon than Trump has been so far.

>Neocons have been a reliable thorn in Trump's side.

What is this? Opposite Day? Or do you reside in some alternate universe?

[Neocons cheer Trump's Afghanistan strategy](http://thehill.com/policy/defense/347487-neocons-cheer-trumps-afghanistan-strategy)

[The Neocons Are Almost Giddy Over Trump’s Syria Strike](http://fpif.org/the-neocons-are-almost-giddy-over-trumps-syria-strike/)

[Donald Trump: The 'Manchurian (Neoconservative) Candidate'?](https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2017/04/27/donald-trump-the-manchurian-neoconservative-candidate/#35184c9679a0)

[Trump ran as a foreign-policy realist. Instead he’s become another interventionist neocon](https://qz.com/975848/trump-ran-as-a-foreign-policy-realist-instead-hes-become-another-interventionist-neocon/)

4:30 am — Saturday, 2 December 2017
anonymous:
Trump is like totally a neocon! Leftist media says he is, so yeah!
3:17 am — Monday, 4 December 2017
anonymous:
Trump is like totally not a neocon! Conservative media says he isn't, so yeah!
6:09 pm — Monday, 4 December 2017
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