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Coy Boy:
I've heard that telling stories is more interesting than hinting at them.
6:14 pm — Wednesday, 6 December 2017
anonymous:
But telling stories takes much more time.
6:27 pm — Wednesday, 6 December 2017
FuzzyPuffin:
It also helps if you have the story.
10:28 pm — Wednesday, 6 December 2017
Q*Bert:
I've heard that there's a story...of a story that tells a story, that I've heard about but can't confirm...that is a great story...

Jesus Christ, Gruber, at least write the articles before you start drinking for the day. Which I guess would be before 10am?
11:01 pm — Wednesday, 6 December 2017
anonymous:
This wouldn't be the first time developers did things that made it easier for cross-platform developers, and worse for users.
12:20 am — Thursday, 7 December 2017
anonymous:
> I find it hard to believe that getting this custom cross-platform monstrosity running atop tvOS was less work (and would be easier to maintain) than just writing a goddamn native tvOS app. I can see why Amazon doesn’t want to create a new app from scratch for every single “smart TV” platform ...

Way to contradict yourself within the span of two entire sentences there, John. Trying to have as much code shared across all of the platforms is exactly why Amazon would want to take this approach.

REMINDER: John knows fuckall about software development.

3:49 am — Thursday, 7 December 2017
anonymous:
Could it possibly be the worst?

By what metric? It's distance from Apple's own muddled and messy UI?

It's clearly not perfect – or as even as good as the Fire TV experience, but it's eminently usable.

tvOS doesn't represent a gold standard against which all other UIs must be judged; tvOS sucks.
4:54 am — Thursday, 7 December 2017
Mac Pro Is Dead:
Just tried it. This app is seriously a piece of shit. Reminds me of the shitty netflix client built into my ~2012 HDTV.

Even the somewhat shitty apps like HBO are head and shoulders above Amozon Prime.
5:53 am — Thursday, 7 December 2017
anonymous:
Netflix has an awesome Apple TV client.

The Amazon one is astoundingly bad. It's functional, though - it plays video, and you can browse around to find shows and movies. How good does it need to be, really?
6:01 am — Thursday, 7 December 2017
Johnny Grubstein:
>How good does it need to be, really?

That's good enough for me.
6:17 am — Thursday, 7 December 2017
Q*Bert:
It's bad. However, let's remember this is the first version on Day 1. It will probably get somewhat better (but I'm not counting on a lot). Others like HBO Go and Playstation Vue that have been out for a long time have less of an excuse.

But bottom line, I'd rather have a bad Amazon app for ATV than no Amazon app for ATV. Theoretically, you should be just watching video for the vast percentage of the time, and interacting with the app a minimum. As long as the A/V quality and streaming is solid, it's a good thing.
6:49 am — Thursday, 7 December 2017
Mac Pro is Dead:
This is the first version on day -6 months or even -2 years.

It's astounding that Amazon didn't have a great Apple TV app made and ready to go, just waiting for the business conditions to release it.

The app is *terrible*. I'm going to rarely use it because it's so bad. Good luck competing with Amazon with this stinker of an app.
8:04 am — Thursday, 7 December 2017
anonymous:
Yeah it's really shit. Really really shit.
1:30 pm — Thursday, 7 December 2017
KT:
Well, one advantage of it being based on TVML instead of tvOS was that they were able to support the 3rd generation AppleTV.

I have three. With Amazon Prime and PlexConnect to run Plex, I have no desire to upgrade to the overpriced new ATV with the bad remote.
1:35 pm — Thursday, 7 December 2017
Grubology 101:
Well, eff, that's slightly annoying. I was very much looking forward to this app. It doesn't seem like Apple to allow crap onto their hardware. Total Quality Control failure in Apple's part, clearly.
5:17 pm — Thursday, 7 December 2017
Grubology 101:
*on
5:17 pm — Thursday, 7 December 2017
KT:
"Well, eff, that's slightly annoying. I was very much looking forward to this app. It doesn't seem like Apple to allow crap onto their hardware. Total Quality Control failure in Apple's part, clearly."

Apple not allowing crappy third party apps from major vendors? Where have you been for the last 10 years?

One Word: Facebook
5:22 pm — Thursday, 7 December 2017
Grubology 101:
Point well taken.
5:28 pm — Thursday, 7 December 2017
Mac Pro is Dead:
@KT the new Apple TV is *significantly* better than the old sans-apps ones. You can even use your old remote if you want.
5:32 pm — Thursday, 7 December 2017
KT:
@Mac Pro is Dead

How is it "significantly better"? I don't have a 4K TV and it's only missing three streaming apps that I use -- Sling, Plex, and theCW.

I have a Plex app via third party PlexConnect set up (https://github.com/iBaa/PlexConnect)

I have theCW content via a Plex Channel and if I really want Sling on the one TV in the house that doesn't have a Roku and an AppleTV, I can AirPlay to it.

All that being said, when I do eventually upgrade our family room TV, I may cringe and pay for the overpriced AppleTV. The interface is much better than Roku and that's the one place where I don't ever need the private listening feature that the Roku sticks have.

1:44 pm — Friday, 8 December 2017
Grubology 101:
I've never heard of the CW - looked it up and it looks awesome!
4:12 pm — Friday, 8 December 2017
anonymous:
>I've never heard of the CW - looked it up and it looks awesome!

It's not. Unless you are an drama-riddled millennial who finds escape in watching soap operas disguised as superhero shows.
4:56 pm — Friday, 8 December 2017
Mac Pro is Dead:

@KT

The old AppleTV feels like an embedded app in your smart TV. Old, slow, never updated, clunky navigation.

The New Apple TV feels modern, bright, high-fidelity, animated. The "focus engine" they use for selection is quite good. The Remote and touchscreen is good, despite having some drawbacks. Easy to download apps, even ones by small developers.

This new Amazon Prime Video app in fact feels like an app you'd see on the OLD Apple TV. That it's so out of place on the new Apple TV proves that its apps / interaction model is much better.
8:03 pm — Friday, 8 December 2017
Vagina Monologue:
It plays video. If you’re like me you spend a few seconds using the search field, then you watch your video. So what if it’s crappy -- do the videos play?
2:53 pm — Saturday, 9 December 2017
Mac Pro is Dead:
This whole "it plays video" excuse is *so* bad. My family in fact spends lots of time browsing Netflix, browsing HBO, browsing Prime Video. It's a huge benefit to have the browsing experience be nice, platform-native, and usable.
6:19 pm — Saturday, 9 December 2017
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